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On The Future Balkanization Of America

thelogosJan 8, 2018, 12:57:08 AM
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I'm writing this in part in response to the recent talks hosted by Andy Warski on YouTube, involving Spencer, Sargon, JF, Styx, and others.  The first discussion, which I believe became the most popular live broadcast on YT for the final few hours is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiUH-tWHbr8&

The last of these, ending as I write these words, can be found here, for those interested: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQrU92590dM&feature=em-lss


Pardon my wordiness:

Firstly, it's brilliant to see these talks finally start to happen. I'm not sure how many of us recognize the significance of this: we're finally beginning to discuss, openly and critically, ideas which have been essentially verboten for decades... creating new tendrils reaching into the void, new creative thinking finally creating solid ground under the feet of those who long for a healthier and more efficient world. These types of talks are absolutely vital, even if they may be a bit simplistic, or scattered and chaotic, at the moment. 

Secondly, balkanization into ethno-states, or even states based around certain ideologies or cultural backgrounds, doesn't need to happen by compulsion, force. I'm not sure why individuals like Styx and Sargon and others seem to believe the only path for the creation of more specifically organized states is for a police/military force to go door to door, dragging off crying children and families, though I tend to think this is a subconscious remnant of decades of ((propaganda)). The ideal would be a nation composed of numerous states which all had individual policies with regards to race, immigration, ideology and economic structure, and individuals could simply flow, organically, to the state they most resonate with, thus naturally creating individual homogenous (racially, or ideologically, or..) states within a larger federal umbrella.

Thirdly, as I just touched upon, I envision this balkanization could conceivably occur within a federal structural framework that holds the nation intact, and avoids its splintering into completely sovereign individual elements, and thus ending the 'United States' as we know it today. It's debatable as to whether this is ideal,  keeping us fused/anchored to one another regardless of our preferences on the matter, but Styx did bring up a valuable point about China immediately becoming the dominant superpower were America to dash itself into pieces... I think this is an obvious truth that has to be confronted, discussed. I don't think its beyond the realm of possibility that different ethno/ideological-states could work together, and be bound by a certain subset of rules and regulations, and some very bare-bones political or economic structure (which could be hammered out, again organically, over time. . . much like individual European states and the EU, although this isn't the best example).

Fourthly, with regards to defining 'whiteness', there seems to be quite a bit of confusion here, and I'm not sure why. Most of us may not recognize it, as science (and genetic research in particular) and academia at large has been hijacked by a far left element which has gone so far as attempting to denying that race even exists (if we don't recognize it as a thing, its not a thing!), but race can be fairly well quantified, objectively, on a genetic level. Look into  Haplogroup types and mitochondrial DNA (patrilineal and matrilineal descent), and this becomes extremely clear. Virtually all individuals of Indo-European ('white') descent are of three haplogroup types: R1a, R1b, and I. . which could even be reduced to two umbrella haplos, or even one, depending on how narrow/broad one wished to be. Similarly, those of 'white' descent almost all descend from approximately 7-8 mothers, in a distant age, whereas other races and peoples do not. This is just the tip of the iceberg: if science were able to analyze the concept of 'race' with intellectual honesty, it'd become clear, very quickly, that we can actually discern various groups of people in a purely objective, definitive manner. Someday, I'm hoping science can return to this healthier foundation, where we seek truth wherever it may lie, as opposed to having science driven by ephemeral cultural whims. 

Fifthly, Styx seems to believe the only thing that falls under the definition of an ethno-state is a 100% homogenous environment, again evoking mental images of pulling people from their homes for forcible deportation. This strikes me as simplistic and silly. Assuming a balkanization occurred, the dual effects of the immigration laws created by said state, in addition to the prevailing culture that'd be created by the new almost-entirely-homogenous population, would simply cause it to become increasingly homogenous over time. It's very unlikely an Asian individual would choose to remain in an African-American ethnostate with a prevailing culture of black pride, black unity, and the preservation and even glorification of black culture, for example. Naturally and organically, this Asian individual would likely choose to pick up and relocate, over time, to an area and state he felt more innate resonance with. 

Sixthly, I have to part ways with the Sargon/Styx/etc mentality that prizes structures over human capital, in terms of importance with regards to whether nations sink or swim. I don't think history supports this outlook in the least. Nations with high-quality human capital (as 'quantified' by perhaps higher IQ, a higher avg life expectancy, lower crime/vice rates, higher per capita income) have always succeeded, regardless of the political and economic structure in place. Conversely, nations with low-quality human capital have always failed miserably, regardless of the economic/political structure in place. To assume that the ideology or structure in place is what dictates a nation's success is extremely backward, in my opinion. I do have a great deal of sympathy for the libertarian mindset, and the prizing of absolute freedom, but I don't think this is the main determining factor, based on historical precedent or intuitive judgment. 


Just some quick and dirty thoughts. . again, I'm appreciating such discussions are finally happening (and welcome further discussion in the comments section, here).